--- Log opened Thu Sep 20 00:00:47 2012
06:43 < mcallan> (good morning) interesting, lots of errors.  try disabling code (like your new track and stuff) till you isolate the cause, at least roughly
06:48 < conseo> mcallan: yes, sometimes the devmode is also difficult to reproduce
06:49 < conseo> mcallan: should i use "float: right" or rather aline the spans with a different mechanism?
06:49 < mcallan> it looks to be timing related, during init.  devmode has different timings and execution order.  the pure gwt scenes use a different linker than the embedded pages, and the execution order is different there again
06:50 < conseo> oh, ok
06:50 < mcallan> (almost never use float.  but i don't know what you're trying to do)
06:50 < conseo> all these init routines make me drunk ^^
06:51 < conseo> mcallan: align spans right in the div for the TalkTrack
06:51 < mcallan> (i know, it's complicated)
06:51 < mcallan> you mean you got overflow hidden on the left?
06:51 < conseo> we'll no problem, it's neat the way it works
06:52 < conseo> atm. its a newline with float
06:52 < conseo> float: right and overflow: hidden
06:52 < mcallan> so this hides overflow on left, when it is too big for window?
06:55 < conseo> sadly not, it draws them in the next line and hides that, but depending upon zooming you can see the next row :-/
06:57 < mcallan> i would say forget about right alignment.  the overflow problem is too difficult
06:57 < conseo> (the embedded chromium debugger is pretty good, it does until now all what i have done with firebug)
06:58 < mcallan> i sometimes use it, too
07:01 < mcallan> so do ordinary layout of inline elements (spans or whatever) in a block (div), but with white-space:nowrap to keep it on a single line, and overflow:hidden to clip it at right
07:02 < mcallan> i was hoping to code first polltrack view today, but i might not get to it.  have to go and buy some hardware (another screen died on me)
07:06 < mcallan> polltrack will be ordered left to right alphabetically, with overflow hidden on right.  that's natural.  it would be weird if talk track were the opposite.  maybe i was wrong there
07:07 < conseo> ok, how old was your dead screen?
07:14 < mcallan> 5 years, samsung lcd
07:16 < conseo> ok
07:17 < conseo> mcallan: i only set difference and message on the stage, but not the actorname to the sender when a message is clicked in the track(?) i think we agreed upon this
07:22 < mcallan> yes, correct
07:27 < conseo> and when a new actor name is selected on the stage (PropertyChangeEvent), i'll highlight all posts from this actor?
07:27 < conseo> with a fading out animation?
07:28 < conseo> i won't do that for the first version, likely after KickWAP and kicking works
07:32 < mcallan> i wouldn't fade out info.  if it's useful show it steady, otherwise not at all
07:33 < mcallan> (unless fade is under user control, as in mouse over effects)  but like u say, that all comes later
07:36 < conseo> ok
07:40 < conseo> mcallan: when i show the spans inline they lose their css-set width. they recommend to use display: inline-block (1) is this reasonable? (1) http://www.quirksmode.org/css/display.html#inlineblock
07:44 < mcallan> maybe.  sometimes elements behave funny without content.  might try adding &nbsp;
07:47 < conseo> ok, and i considered that ugly :-)
07:48 < conseo> that works
07:48 < mcallan> but it is ugly, ur right.  inline block is probably cleaner.  i think images are inline block.  http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/visuren.html#display-prop
07:54 < conseo> that works very well
08:03 < conseo> direction: rtl does the trick, now they are filled from the right side :-D
08:13 < mcallan> really, that simple?  excellent
09:05 < Thomas____> hey Mike, are u there?
09:10 < mcallan> Thomas____: hey thomas
09:23 < mcallan> Thomas____: i turned on skype.  please ring if you're free to speak
09:31 < Thomas____> ring
--- Log closed Fri Sep 21 00:00:04 2012